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Re: Slow keyboard Input from some GEM programs...



Hmm I never received the original message with this subject but I'll
prolly get that tomorrow. :-)

On Mon, 1 Jun 1998, Jo Even Skarstein wrote:

> > Some GEM programs, under Mint (KEMD), many I really like to use, take
> > several seconds per character when I'm typing input on the keyboard on my
> > system (Stock Falcon 030, VGA, 14meg, NVDI 3.2, HD-Driver 5.1, AES 1.4).
> 
> Do you mean AES 4.1? Or are you using the built-in AES? If you don't
> use a replacement AES of some kind (MultiTOS, N.AES...) you'll have to
> run NOHOG.ACC to get decent performance.

I have the same problem, in both n.aes and aes 4.1. I don't exactly know
what nohog does, but if I run singlegem without nohog, my keyboard doesn't
work at all. :)
Anyway n.aes seems terribly slow (and is blamed for it by almost everyone
who tries mintos for the first time!!) but the keyboard response is normal
when just running mint+n.aes (so no mintos).

Apparantly changing the timeslice helps, but I never saw any difference on
my system (which is also a stock falcon with vga, 14mb and nvdi but with
n.aes). 

> Edith is extremely slow under any OS...

True. :) But I don't think that's the cause of his problem. :) I have it
with everest, qed and anything else in gem I can type in. (But, and this
is what makes it seem like a more structural problem, NOT in programs
running on the vcons!)

> > Needless to say, it makes trying to use these programs frustrating to the
> > point of uselessness...when it takes forever just to type in a single line
> > of text.
> 
> Sounds like a problem I had with some programs (including qed and the
> Pure C editor) and had SpeedUp installed. I had the same problems with
> MausWin as well.

I used to have SpeedUp installed, but I removed that when I noticed things
actually got faster without it. :) Ok, prolly bad configuring of speedup,
but the thing is I never managed to configure it in a way that actually
made it faster. What I figured was (if someone has other experiences
please tell me!) that what speedup does is only worth it in the extremely
slow aes 4.1, but in n.aes wasts as much speed as it gains. (Again this is
only a suspicion I have) :)

> You should also run 'top' and check which process that's hogging your
> system.

AESSYS is on 21%, the rest is almost zero. (While checking this I found
another interesting thing: At some point one of my two getty's suddenly
jumped from 0% to 35% without any attached machine actually being switched
on, and typing performance reduced even further, now also on the vcons
it's impossible to type normally. the minix partition is now being
accessed once every 5 seconds. I noticed this before but now I know getty
is to blame.) :) 

Maurits.

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