Re: [MiNT] What's in, what's out?

[Martin-Eric Racine <q-funk@pp.fishpool.fi>]

On 28.11.1999, Guido Flohr <gufl0000@stud.uni-sb.de> wrote:

> > On 25.11.1999, Guido Flohr <gufl0000@stud.uni-sb.de> wrote:
> > 
> > > Source-compatibility is a very important issue for me.  
> > 
> > Me too, but not at the expense of breaking documented features.
> 
> Yeah! Good point! Which features?

The Atari Compendium, GEMDOS conmpatibility.

> > > My goal is that everybody installs a C compiler because this
> > > is a vital part of every operating system, but users will
> > > only accept that if it is really unproblematic to install the
> > > required tools and libraries.  
> > 
> > ...and if they work.
> > 
> > Currently, the lib produces broken binaries that die with a
> > bus error, even with an indecently huge malloc in the header,
> > most of the time.  Only really simple apps work.
> 
> Please never ask me again for developer sources.  You have downloaded a
> developer source tree that produces broken binaries.  Correct.

I'm talking about 0.53, btw.  The current development beta is
much better. Nonetheless, any _lib_ since 0.49 produces unstable
binaries.

> Remember my words: "One of these two patches *may* work".

And it indeed succeeded in getting the lib to compile but, as
with previous versions, still produces unstable binaries.

> mbaserel has only one effect: The text segment is shared on fork(). But if
> your program forks and then execs another image you win nothing.  The fork
> is a little faster but that is eaten up by the base-relative addressing.

Noted.

Btw, since it apparently hit a nerve, unintentionally, let me
state one thing clearly:  

The above statement was merely an observation that the current
GCC, libs and binary tools are not yet stable e.g. it's not yet a
"unpack and use" environment, because even simple binaries do not
compile to something stable.

However, I definitely agree that those three packages should be
included in a basic distribution, once stable.

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