Re: [MiNT] WCOWORK vs WINDOM for components

[Joakim Högberg <gokmase@gmail.com>]

On 7/24/05, evan@coolrunningconcepts.com <evan@coolrunningconcepts.com> wrote:
> Quoting Lonny Pursell <atari@bright.net>:
> 
> > I also have no interest in windom or any other lib for that matter.
> > If these libs have bugs, then you are importing other peoples bugs.
> > Agreed it might be fine for some, but definitely not for everyone.
> 
> And unlike writing it all yourself, open-source libs have their bugs by more
> than just you (usually years worth of development and debugging), and most of
> the work is done for you so you can concentrate on more important things.

You should perhaps also consider the possibility that some may
actually *enjoy* handling the GEM part of the application themselves?
This is certainly true in my case.

>> > I also don't like the assumption that because a lib is already present that
> > OS dev needs to be stopped or changed to suit the lib.  That is just
> > backwards thinking.  It needs to go into the OS so we can keep the apps lean
> > and clean and not huge and bulky.   Also if it's in the OS, it makes it far
> > more easier for any language to access the features.
 
> And .. put user libs in the OS?   Uhmm .. NO!   The OS is supposed to control

Well, if certain functions are added to the AES, they are not user
libs per definiation I'd say. Some things may be better off in a
separate user lib, while others may be best kept in the AES. The
opinions clearly differs here.

As for Lp's comment on OS developement, I could not agree more. I
think we must allow a system component such as the AES to evolve
beyond the N.AES compatibility and take things from there. P

Perhaps the current state is enough for some, which feel it is better
to depend on dozens of users libs in order to get an application
working on every possible old AES on the Atari. Many obviously
disagrees, but I would much prefer seeing the MiNT/XaAES combo turned
into a more powerful environment at the same time as backwards
compatibility is there too of course.

Anyway, I sense this topic is getting nowhere. It seems the WCOWORK
discussion is being turned into a gazillion other off-topic
discussions. I am getting real pessimistic on the FreeMiNT future
after listening to all the negative feedback of Ozk's work to be quite
honest. I just hope he keeps on doing good technical solutions even if
others wants him to supply quick fixes in order to have their code
running as-is. Progress requires changes, IMHO.


Regards,

/Joakim