Re: [MiNT] MiNTLib / Kernel Future and also SpareMiNT.....

[Paul Wratt <paul.wratt@gmail.com>]

On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 10:20 PM, Mark Duckworth
<mduckworth@atari-source.org> wrote:
>
> Myself and probably many others still disagree that it shouldn't just be
> completely and utterly open like that.  Open and democratic doesn't have to
> mean constantly fixing random damage caused by an inexperienced or misguided
> user.  Same with cvs/svn, same with everything else.
>
> Thanks,
> Mark
>

name a time when this has happened?

name a time when it has been completely open and democratic?

same as CVS/SVN when people cant get valid patches commited?

these are part of the reason why things do need "cleaning up".

the majority of us dont have a lot of time to keep track of every
thing that is supposed to be happening, or needs support.

if a roadmap where wiki style (one of the most successful community
based auditing systems, one you yourself recommended) then those who
had five minutes to spare once every 6 months could contribute without
the need to figure out where to start and what need  editing,
updating, fixing or creating

people want more of a user base, them make it easier to find.

people want more input and assistance, then make it easier for that to happen.

a question:
 "if the mail server went down permanently, where would this
discussion continue?"

part of these issues is more about managing resources better. there is
already the infrastructure, and generally speaking, there is always
enough manpower to do something.

Some people however dont have the time to commit to something that can
takes weeks or months to re-familiarise themselves with before they
can start being constructive again.

At the end of the day, a central group of (generally) active people
will be around to govern things, seeing that things dont get out of
kilter or off track, as it always has, even when there is only one
person doing development

At the moment there are either too many things (ideas) being put
forward, and no where for them to be maintained, or noone addressing
issues that we all know to be problems (short term or long term).

Mostly is a time thing and an interest thing. people developing are
not interested in docs. people who can do docs and web stuff
(technical and content) have no obvious route to take. and then there
are the people who do non-coding related development, who will never
qualify for developer access, simply because they are seen to be
"inexperienced or misguided"

At minimum, a system that allows one off contributions to any part of
what constitutes MiNT (in this case) needs to be put in place, and
that is what I propose.

Obviously I'm not the one with the "keys" as it were, so I can not
make those changes myself, so its up to the rest of you to decide how
its going to be done.

But either way, it must be done..

Cheers

Paul