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Re: [MiNT] gcc2.9.3/4.5.0 building using mintlib-19082010



Hello Vincent,

Just to say thanks for your detailed reply.  It now makes a lot more sense.  I went back to the configuration logs, and found a couple of places where the lib & include paths were not being passed to gcc in the configure stage, so it may have been getting some configuration wrong, but it may have been fine.
It turned out that the test was failing because the stack size wasn't big enough.
stack ./sed/sed -S 130k
fixed that, so the make check passed all tests.

I was only trying the -g because I was seriously considering trying out gdb.. although I'd probably be better starting on something I'd written myself first..

I have [now] also tried building sed 4.2.1 but configure likes to say this and that don't exist on your system, so we'd like to run autoconf.. I don't want to install this or that, but maybe theres an option to not build any docs.

Anyway thanks,

Matt.

> Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 19:59:11 +0200
> From: vincent.riviere@freesbee.fr
> To: mint@lists.fishpool.fi
> Subject: Re: [MiNT] gcc2.9.3/4.5.0 building using mintlib-19082010
>
> Hello, Matt.
>
> I'm not sure to understand your problems, but I will try to answer.
>
> > I'm trying to understand the gcc build process. I have been building sed
> > 4.0.6 (with 1 fail) and sed 3.02 with no trouble, using mintlib-19082010.
>
> The latest sed is 4.2.1. I have cross-built it for MiNT recently without
> any trouble and without any additional patch.
>
> Be sure to configure using:
> configure --prefix=/usr CFLAGS="-O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -s"
>
> Note the contents of the CFLAGS:
> -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer are the best optimization flags for the MiNT
> platform.
> -s allows to build directly without any debug information (strip will be
> unnecessary).
> -g is *not* used: thus, the source-level debug info for for gdb will not
> be generated, and the optimized MiNTLib will be linked, rather than the
> debug one.
>
> This configure command line should be the standard one for all packages
> using autoconf/automake. Sometimes, because of imperfections in the
> shipped configure files, it requires additional tweaking, especially if
> you want to use a cross-compiler.
>
> > Does this seem ok that the compiler supplied libraries exist and are
> > used by compilation, as well as the latest mintlib supplied libraries?
> > - Can gcc run in a way that it doesn't need its default libraries.. or
> > am i crazy?
> >
> > ..<snip>..
> > (../intl/libintl.a)explodename.o <-- from sed
> > (/d/usr/bin/../lib/gcc/m68k-atari-mint/4.5.0/m68020-60/libgcc.a)__main.o
> > <-- from gcc 4.5.0
> > (/e/mintlib-19082010/lib/libc_g.a)globals.o <-- mintlib latest
> > ..<snip>..
> > (/e/mintlib-19082010/lib/libc_g.a)gmtime.o
> > (/d/usr/bin/../lib/gcc/m68k-atari-mint/4.5.0/m68020-60/libgcc.a)_udivsi3.o
> > <-- from gcc 4.5.0 again.
> > (/d/usr/bin/../lib/gcc/m68k-atari-mint/4.5.0/m68020-60/libgcc.a)_umodsi3.o
> > (/d/usr/bin/../lib/gcc/m68k-atari-mint/4.5.0/m68020-60/libgcc.a)_mulsi3.o
> > (/d/usr/bin/../lib/gcc/m68k-atari-mint/4.5.0/m68020-60/libgcc.a)_divsi3.o
> > (/d/usr/bin/../lib/gcc/m68k-atari-mint/4.5.0/m68020-60/libgcc.a)_modsi3.o
> > (/d/usr/bin/../lib/gcc/m68k-atari-mint/4.5.0/m68020-60/libgcc.a)fpgnulib.o
> > (/d/usr/bin/../lib/gcc/m68k-atari-mint/4.5.0/m68020-60/libgcc.a)xfgnulib.o
> > (/d/usr/bin/../lib/gcc/m68k-atari-mint/4.5.0/m68020-60/libgcc.a)_ltdf2.o
> > (/d/usr/bin/../lib/gcc/m68k-atari-mint/4.5.0/m68020-60/libgcc.a)_double.o
> > (/d/usr/bin/../lib/gcc/m68k-atari-mint/4.5.0/m68020-60/libgcc.a)_floatex.o
>
> First I see libc_g.a. Please do *not* link with the -g option if you are
> building release software. Of course linking with -g is OK if you want
> to compile a debug version and use GDB.
>
> Also, using -g and -m68020-60 is not officially supported, because your
> own code will be optimized for 68020-60 while the debug MiNTLib is
> optimized for 68000. Mixing the CPU options should always be considered
> as a very bad idea (however it should work in most cases - but don't
> complain if it doesn't).
>
> Except that, everything is OK.
>
> If I understand well, you are not asking for information about GCC, but
> about the linker (ld) behaviour. Basically, you use the gcc command to
> link your final executable. You *don't* include the -c option, so it
> will generate an executable (rather than a .o file). In this case, the
> gcc frontend will not call the compiler (named cc1), it will directly
> pass the arguments down to the linker.
>
> Basically, *all* the .o files provided on the linker command line are
> linked into the final executable, from left to right. You will always
> see them first in the -Wl,-t output. Then there will be some unresolved
> externals. The linker will search for the required functions in the
> static libraries (.a files) provided on the command line (or implicitly)
> from left to right starting *after* the object file having the
> unresolved external. So the position of the .a files on the command line
> is important. Normally, all the .a files should be located at the end,
> sometimes it is necessary to put them several times on the command line
> to solve circular reference. When a required symbol is defined in some
> .o file inside a .a file, the inner .o file will be linked completely,
> but not the other .o files found in the .a file, if they are
> unnecessary. In short: when you put .o files on the command line, they
> will always be linked into the final executable. When you put .a files
> on the command line, they will be partially included in the final
> executable: only the required part. Thus, you can link with huge .a
> files, your program will not necessarily become huge.
>
> In your example, the following objects are linked:
>
> 1) The .o file containing main() (not shown ?). With gcc, main() will
> always call the hidden and implicit function __main() to initialize some
> global data.
> 2) The .o files present on the linker command line
> 3) __main.o from libgcc.a because it contains the implementation of
> __main().
> 4) Most unresolved externals are provided by the MiNTLib (printf(),
> strcpy(), etc.)
> 5) The very low level functions for manipulating 32-bit integers
> (udivsi3(), umodsi3(), used implicitly by your program or the MiNTLib)
> are linked in.
> 6) And so on.
>
> There is no mystery in the building process used by GCC.
> Don't hesitate to ask if you have further questions.
>
> --
> Vincent Rivière
>
>