Re: [MiNT] Language/keyboard selection and problems

[skeezix <skeezix@skeleton.org>]

	I should note my guessess --

	XControl.ACC -- I'm betting the language is hardcoded in, and 
there are versions for each language; I recall having received an English 
one on floppies in the late 80s, so it'll be around the Net somewhere no 
doubt.

	TosWin2.app -- same boat I bet; maybe its German only built, or 
maybe its compile time, but thats my guess.

	This is why my tl;dr note is about the keyboard mapping (and also 
the lack of keyboard until Toswin is used.) The language display is 
probably just a case of me finding the right binaries.

		jeff

On Wed, 27 Jul 2011, skeezix wrote:

# 
# 	Probably dumb questions but I'll throw them out anyway --
# 
# 	tl;dr -- how do I configure the keyboard mapping to QWERTY in GEM and
# in MiNT?
# 
# 	Long (questions near the end):
# 
# 	I'm on a Firebee here, but hopefully it is common across MiNT
# platforms.
# 
# 	Given..
# 
# 	- Booting FireTOS, the GEM menus are in English ("Set Video" and so
# on.)
# 
# 	- Checking some of the ACCessories, they might be in French or German,
# say. XControl.ACC is showing up in French for me.
# 
# 		-> I'm woefully out of date, and naive -- is this a function
# of copying RSC files around, and the app having a French RSC file applied now?
# XControl.ACC I have on this particular setup, but no RSC files for it (or
# they're buried.)
# 
# 	Set up a CF with two partitions (FAT16, ext2fs); Set up current MiNT
# on partition one (which maps to drive C: in FireTOS), and I nabbed Gentoo MiNT
# tarball 'ready to go' and untarred into the ext2fs partition. Naturally, I'm
# cribbing conf file bitsd and binaries from random places, and building some
# bits, in a rush to see what happens ;)
# 
# The Gentoo sample I used is:
# http://gentoo.atariforge.org/gentoo.tar.bz2
# 	from
# http://gentoo.atariforge.org/
# 
# 	FWIW, I'm using a TT030 keyboard (same as Mega ST keyboard); English
# keyboard.
# 
# 	I think Gentoo is not important for my question, but it might well be
# so I mention it anyway.
# 
# 	Boot up; with the C partition having AUTO with the mint loader, I get
# to GEM with A and B (irrelevent) and C showing (C being the FAT16 that has
# MINT and all that on it.) The ext2 partition doesn't show to GEM, but I
# believe the symlinks and such are all set up in Mint-space. At least, when I
# run shell, /bin and /usr and so on appear nicely.
# 
# 	- Mousing around I run TosWin2.app .. and its menus are in German;
# hitting Daten -> whatever to run the shell, and bash comes up nicely.
# 
# 	Problem: Keyboard doesn't seem to work in GEM (but after toswin2 is
# up, the keyboard 'works' at the shell.) So the keyboard is grabbed by Mint?
# 
# 	Problem the second: So now I've got English GEM, French XControl.ACC,
# German TosWin2.ACC.
# 
# 	Problem the Third: My keyboard is mapped non-natively -- I suspect it
# is French setup as its AZERT layout and not QWERTY; previously I'd been using
# someone elses Mint and it was QWERZ I think (German). Ah, what multicultural
# times we live in :)
# 
# 	Mint startup reports keyboard and language nationality code 0 (zero),
# if it matters. (And notes that its loading up some language tbl file ..
# keyboard.tbl IIRC.)
# 
# 	I don't know anything about how GEM/etc/etc determines the locale and
# language to use .. old old memories.
# 
# 	Questions:
# 
# 
# 	- Given GEM is showing English, I'm supposing I'm okay there (or
# perhaps its flashed to En? Or does GEM default to English unless an ACC
# overrides? Or does it pick it up based on keyboard or something?) .. anyway,
# is okay for me.
# 
# 	- What about ACCessories .. I've not loaded up a pile to see, but any
# idea why my particular XControl.ACC is showing in French (ie: different to GEM
# itself)? Probably an easy fix.
# 
# 	- TosWin2.app -- I've only ever seen this in German (ie: In English in
# ARanyM, its German as well.) Is it hardcoded, or another setting somewhere?
# 
# 
# 	- Keyboard .. any idea why keyboard is unresponsive at GEM before I
# open the shell?
# 
# 	- Keyboard mapping .. Any idea why its in French in the bash prompt?
# (I had intended to try it on some other apps before running toswin2, to see if
# normal Gem apps are French as well, but obviously I can't type anything :) --
# where is the keyboard mapping selection specified? (I dont' see anything in
# Mint.cnf) and I highly doubt its a compile time option.
# 
# 	--
# 
# 	I think in yesterdays boot, keyboard was okay (English mapped), which
# was on a totally different install (ie: it came from someone else by
# accident.) Certainly, keyboard worked at GEM there, but I wasn't fiddling with
# a current MiNT either.
# 
# 	(I realize all of this is unstable on FireBee; thats part of the fun,
# of course.)
# 
# 	So I've done something in my fresh install.. :)
# 
# 	Any help is appreciated ;)
# 
# 	--
# 
# 	Aside: I'm thinking I should redo this process, and have 3
# partitions..
# 
# 	1) FAT16 - boot partition that has Mint, etc
# 	2) FAT32 partition (if TOS can handle that, otherwise FAT16) -- boot
# partition also to be used as shared data between setups; non Mint.
# 	3) ext2fs - for Unix-environment, be it Gentoo or SpareMint, or
# whatever.
# 
# 		jeff
# 
# --
# If everyone would put barbecue sauce on their food, there would be no war.
# 

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