[Freemint-list] Interesting github project / ressurection

[Ryan Daum]

I might be willing to pitch in on that, though I'm more interested in the
AES than the VDI. I had ovdisys ported to work to a cairo driven back end.
But in the end I had too many issues with cairo on the OS X platform I was
working on at the time, and began to work on a raw Xlib backend instead (I
flirted with SDL/OpenGL as well but OpenGL sucks for multithreaded
applications).  But ovdisys was not really complete enough either and
things like font support were awkward. Also I was refactoring o*sys into
C++ as I went, as I can't really stand working in ANSI C anymore and prefer
a subset of C++.

In any case in the process I realized how much I hated the VDI.

Ryan

On 25 January 2017 at 04:46, Keli Hlodversson <keli at keli.dk> wrote:

> Agreed here. I admit that most of the fun hacking on ParaTOS (my parallel
> implementation of an Linux system call emulator mentioned earlier) went
> away when I had implemented the basic system calls and was able to load
> other executables from an emulated executable.
>
> Since then, the development has been dormant. Unless I get some traction
> on a VDI -> Cairo bridge I've been playing around with.... sigh... some day
> ;)
>
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 7:16 PM, Ryan Daum <ryan.daum at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I"m with you. It's a hobby. Almost nobody is doing atari or other 'retro
>> computing' stuff for productivity or profit. Hobbies don't have to have a
>> rational -- with apologies to Kant, they can be an end in themself.
>> Nostalgia isn't the sum total of it, it's just pleasure in doing certain
>> things.
>>
>> And as a software engineer by trade, there's things about DR's GEM and
>> other parts of the Atari platform that I appreciate. So seeing it improved
>> and carried on is a personal pleasure to watch and participate in where I
>> can.
>>
>> Ryan
>>
>> On 24 January 2017 at 19:49, Mark Duckworth <mduckworth at atari-source.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I know I'm weird but 3/4 of the fun for me is making the platform do
>>> things it would have been thought impossible.  Hence the desire to run
>>> netsurf, ct60, ctpci, firebee, etc.  Pushing the platform back towards
>>> usability.  So I don't see this type of thing as a future direction so
>>> much as an other path for playing and pushing the system.  It's not much
>>> different when it comes down to it than Aranym.  Absolutely insane
>>> performance and capabilities.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Mark
>>>
>>>
>>> On 01/24/2017 09:57 AM, Jo Even Skarstein wrote:
>>> > Den 24.01.2017 13:53, skrev Vincent Rivière:
>>> >
>>> >> IMHO, that concept is *the* ultimate thing to do. A system like Wine
>>> >> which allows to transparently run TOS programs on a host OS, without
>>> >> the
>>> >> burden of a full-blown hardware emulator. It is the way I would like
>>> to
>>> >> run old Atari software nowadays (if any). Combined to a JIT CPU
>>> >> emulator, it would provide ultimate speed. And full memory protection.
>>> >
>>> > Personally I think this is a step in the wrong direction. There are
>>> very
>>> > few TOS/GEM applications that are better than what we have on modern
>>> > platforms,
>>> > so why would you want to use them under Windows or Linux? In the
>>> general
>>> > case
>>> > this is a completely uninteresting solution. Technically interesting -
>>> > yes. And
>>> > almost certainly a lot of fun to implement. But of very little use.
>>> >
>>> > Let's face it, this platform has not been for "productive" use for
>>> many,
>>> > many
>>> > years. It's about nostalgia. And most of that nostalgia is gone when
>>> you
>>> > abstract away the platform itself.
>>> >
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> --
> With kind regards,
> Hrafnkell "Keli" Hloedversson
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